I agree with your premise. Couple of things. First, everyone was blown up in Atlanta, even Eury. Hoeing has done well in the four-inning sphere. Most of our starters are five-inning guys anyway. He, too, is in new territory for innings pitched soon, but had to be given the ball consistently. If we must, call it an opener start. We'll never know unless we extend these guys a bit. Secondly, Cueto is a sunk cost, IMO. Regarding a few guys who could adequately (not spectacularly) eat up some innings might be older guys for whom the asking price might be light. Greinke, Kluber, Lynn, Rodriguez? A bit of money, but innings guys and no long-term prospect hit. I think Giolito will be too expensive. Also wondering about a guy like May from the A's. He would be a salary dump for them, but still reasonable. I deliberately left out the Cardinals because I think they're gun-shy with the Marlins and thus, too tough to deal with !
Good morning. Despite the turbulence against Atlanta, the Marlins got back to good play and winning ways, at home and against one of the best rosters in the NL. I insist that what Skip Shumaker is doing and achieving has a lot of merit, providing stability, managing to get the extra, both to hitters and pitchers, achieving a collective game where many are more concerned with doing their job, even productive outs, than with their personal performance.
As you say, the starting rotation has not been good, only Eury pitches with an ERA below 3, but the bullpen has been fantastic and Skip has very well defined roles and has also shown a lot of common sense, tact, in his decisions at the moment. to determine substitutions either on offense or in pitching.
Having said all that and knowing the history of our management, it would be necessary to see how much they are willing to spend, but it would be normal for at least two reinforcements to arrive, a starting pitcher and a position player (C or SS). I am sure that on the trade date there will be very appetizing things: Jack Flaherty, Lucas Giolito, Marcus Stroman, Salvador Perez, Tim Anderson, Charlie Blackmon, Alex Verdugo and surely there will be many more names.
Looking at the issue of injuries and other issues we've discussed, in my opinion the Marlins should seriously consider Jazz, Edward Cabrera as trade pieces. We'll see what Kim NG has in mind.
You make a compelling case, Glenn. I still think it's premature to prioritize the team's deadline needs. The key player to me is Trevor Rogers. It's evident that he won't return until after the deadline, but still expected back at some point. If there are substantial innings to fill before his return and an available arm who's substantially better than their other internal options, then you swing a trade. We'll have a clearer idea coming out of the All-Star break depending on whether or not Rogers is cleared to resume throwing by then.
I don’t think it’s too early when you look at the number of question marks.
Also, I’m writing about this for tomorrow, I’m a proponent of not waiting until the last minute to make a move. You make a trade in the next few days and you could get 4 starts out of someone better than Hoeing before the deadline.
There is an urgency to winning the #1 Wild Card spot and playing that series at home, both from a competitive standpoint but, more so, from a marketing standpoint--trying to generate excitement that carries into the future. If you’re the 2 or 3 Wild Card team, you could get bounced and not play a single home playoff game. That would be a heck of a buzzkill on any momentum they might be building.
And prioritizing starting pitching doesn’t mean you can’t make other moves as well. However, the net result of adding a quality starter (every 5 days and accounting for the impact it can have on preserving the bullpen in the 2nd half) is greater, in my opinion, than any bat or bullpen arm they might add.
I agree with your premise. Couple of things. First, everyone was blown up in Atlanta, even Eury. Hoeing has done well in the four-inning sphere. Most of our starters are five-inning guys anyway. He, too, is in new territory for innings pitched soon, but had to be given the ball consistently. If we must, call it an opener start. We'll never know unless we extend these guys a bit. Secondly, Cueto is a sunk cost, IMO. Regarding a few guys who could adequately (not spectacularly) eat up some innings might be older guys for whom the asking price might be light. Greinke, Kluber, Lynn, Rodriguez? A bit of money, but innings guys and no long-term prospect hit. I think Giolito will be too expensive. Also wondering about a guy like May from the A's. He would be a salary dump for them, but still reasonable. I deliberately left out the Cardinals because I think they're gun-shy with the Marlins and thus, too tough to deal with !
Good morning. Despite the turbulence against Atlanta, the Marlins got back to good play and winning ways, at home and against one of the best rosters in the NL. I insist that what Skip Shumaker is doing and achieving has a lot of merit, providing stability, managing to get the extra, both to hitters and pitchers, achieving a collective game where many are more concerned with doing their job, even productive outs, than with their personal performance.
As you say, the starting rotation has not been good, only Eury pitches with an ERA below 3, but the bullpen has been fantastic and Skip has very well defined roles and has also shown a lot of common sense, tact, in his decisions at the moment. to determine substitutions either on offense or in pitching.
Having said all that and knowing the history of our management, it would be necessary to see how much they are willing to spend, but it would be normal for at least two reinforcements to arrive, a starting pitcher and a position player (C or SS). I am sure that on the trade date there will be very appetizing things: Jack Flaherty, Lucas Giolito, Marcus Stroman, Salvador Perez, Tim Anderson, Charlie Blackmon, Alex Verdugo and surely there will be many more names.
Looking at the issue of injuries and other issues we've discussed, in my opinion the Marlins should seriously consider Jazz, Edward Cabrera as trade pieces. We'll see what Kim NG has in mind.
Would Lucas Giolito make sense?
You make a compelling case, Glenn. I still think it's premature to prioritize the team's deadline needs. The key player to me is Trevor Rogers. It's evident that he won't return until after the deadline, but still expected back at some point. If there are substantial innings to fill before his return and an available arm who's substantially better than their other internal options, then you swing a trade. We'll have a clearer idea coming out of the All-Star break depending on whether or not Rogers is cleared to resume throwing by then.
I don’t think it’s too early when you look at the number of question marks.
Also, I’m writing about this for tomorrow, I’m a proponent of not waiting until the last minute to make a move. You make a trade in the next few days and you could get 4 starts out of someone better than Hoeing before the deadline.
There is an urgency to winning the #1 Wild Card spot and playing that series at home, both from a competitive standpoint but, more so, from a marketing standpoint--trying to generate excitement that carries into the future. If you’re the 2 or 3 Wild Card team, you could get bounced and not play a single home playoff game. That would be a heck of a buzzkill on any momentum they might be building.
And prioritizing starting pitching doesn’t mean you can’t make other moves as well. However, the net result of adding a quality starter (every 5 days and accounting for the impact it can have on preserving the bullpen in the 2nd half) is greater, in my opinion, than any bat or bullpen arm they might add.