I'm unclear as to what you don't like. Finding a way to contend every year despite being at the bottom of MLB in attendance and revenue is quite admirable. Routinely beating teams that can afford payrolls, 2, 3, 4 times the size of theirs is pretty impressive. Their baseball operations department is the envy of the industry. They're doing a lot of things right. What's not to like?
I simply like to see Major League players and the Tampa rosters, most of the time they are Minor League players who, applying pure and hard sabermetry, get a great performance, that is undeniable. Speaking of sabermetrics, I think that it is a useful tool but that it can never govern a human game where there are factors and feelings that a computer will never be able to calculate, who does not remember that nonsense of taking out Snell in that decisive game, just because it was what It indicated a sabermetric study, for that and many other things I dare to say that they will never be Champions, because also those rosters are not enough for that (time will tell). What other team has those results with those methods? Oakland and its Moneyball were the pioneers, there aren't many others that apply these methods with such good results, in fact mediocre rosters are directly proportional to poor results. A Hall of Fame will never come out of Tampa, it is rare that they have a player in the top 30 of MLB, well I insist, I respect what they do a lot, it is even admirable but I prefer that my team have, train and pay for MLB Players and that always have some big star on the roster. By the way, if all the teams applied the Tampa or Okland method, the big stars would have to emigrate to the Japanese League and the MLB would not be the Great Show that it is.
As a lifelong Expos fan, I feel chemistry with the Rays modus operandi. They operate differently out of necessity, but not out of desperation. The Expos developed and foraged because they had to, as well. I left baseball for ten years after the Expos moved to DC. Of course, I was drawn to the Marlins because of the great Van Horne, but couldn't abide by Loria/Samson. Living much of the year in Jacksonville, with the JaxSpos and now Marlins affiliation, and being a NL guy at heart, I chose the Marlins when the new regime came in. Thought long about the Rays and I do pull for them against every other team but the Marlins. Their success just somehow feels like a tribute to the Expos and their unique plight. Thanks for the perspectives. Glad I heard about your new gig from Peter Pratt of Locked on Marlins. As of today, the team is over .500 fifteen games in. Hope!
They've been in the playoffs 4 straight years and 8 of the last 15. They have the 4th-best record in all of baseball over the last 15 seasons. They're off to the 3rd-best undefeated start in major league history this year. They must have had a few players you consider "real" major leaguers in the last 15 years to have that success.
I recognize that it is difficult to explain, even more complex to refute with such numbers, but I insist that for me not everything is reduced to numbers or final result, there is something else, there must be something else, I am sure that deep down you understand what I mean my point of view.
Isn't the idea to put a team on the field that gives you the best chance to win? I think what you're saying is that the Rays haven't had players on their roster better than Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna, Realmuto and Fernandez, and you like watching players like that. Iunderstand that, but those players never even finished with a .500 record when they were together the Marlins. I don't think many people would trade Tampa Bay's success for losing seasons with sexier names.
I don't like it but it works for them, without a doubt, and for the owners it's Christmas.
I'm unclear as to what you don't like. Finding a way to contend every year despite being at the bottom of MLB in attendance and revenue is quite admirable. Routinely beating teams that can afford payrolls, 2, 3, 4 times the size of theirs is pretty impressive. Their baseball operations department is the envy of the industry. They're doing a lot of things right. What's not to like?
I simply like to see Major League players and the Tampa rosters, most of the time they are Minor League players who, applying pure and hard sabermetry, get a great performance, that is undeniable. Speaking of sabermetrics, I think that it is a useful tool but that it can never govern a human game where there are factors and feelings that a computer will never be able to calculate, who does not remember that nonsense of taking out Snell in that decisive game, just because it was what It indicated a sabermetric study, for that and many other things I dare to say that they will never be Champions, because also those rosters are not enough for that (time will tell). What other team has those results with those methods? Oakland and its Moneyball were the pioneers, there aren't many others that apply these methods with such good results, in fact mediocre rosters are directly proportional to poor results. A Hall of Fame will never come out of Tampa, it is rare that they have a player in the top 30 of MLB, well I insist, I respect what they do a lot, it is even admirable but I prefer that my team have, train and pay for MLB Players and that always have some big star on the roster. By the way, if all the teams applied the Tampa or Okland method, the big stars would have to emigrate to the Japanese League and the MLB would not be the Great Show that it is.
As a lifelong Expos fan, I feel chemistry with the Rays modus operandi. They operate differently out of necessity, but not out of desperation. The Expos developed and foraged because they had to, as well. I left baseball for ten years after the Expos moved to DC. Of course, I was drawn to the Marlins because of the great Van Horne, but couldn't abide by Loria/Samson. Living much of the year in Jacksonville, with the JaxSpos and now Marlins affiliation, and being a NL guy at heart, I chose the Marlins when the new regime came in. Thought long about the Rays and I do pull for them against every other team but the Marlins. Their success just somehow feels like a tribute to the Expos and their unique plight. Thanks for the perspectives. Glad I heard about your new gig from Peter Pratt of Locked on Marlins. As of today, the team is over .500 fifteen games in. Hope!
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They've been in the playoffs 4 straight years and 8 of the last 15. They have the 4th-best record in all of baseball over the last 15 seasons. They're off to the 3rd-best undefeated start in major league history this year. They must have had a few players you consider "real" major leaguers in the last 15 years to have that success.
I recognize that it is difficult to explain, even more complex to refute with such numbers, but I insist that for me not everything is reduced to numbers or final result, there is something else, there must be something else, I am sure that deep down you understand what I mean my point of view.
Isn't the idea to put a team on the field that gives you the best chance to win? I think what you're saying is that the Rays haven't had players on their roster better than Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna, Realmuto and Fernandez, and you like watching players like that. Iunderstand that, but those players never even finished with a .500 record when they were together the Marlins. I don't think many people would trade Tampa Bay's success for losing seasons with sexier names.
That exactly my point. I prefer, even loose, in my team, players like Giancarlo, José, Yelich, etc. But this is me.