It's hard to have hope for this team when ownership seems so incompetent and cheap.
I mean, this is like the opposite of the Heat and the culture of winning they have there.
It breaks my heart because this team means so much to me. And yet, Sherman doesn't seem to want to spend the money to build a sustainable winning franchise and doesn't value his people. How can a team possibly build a sustainable winning franchise with that kind of attitude and that kind of rank mismanagement?
He’s had 6 years to prove you wrong, and he hasn’t done it yet. With each move he makes, it gets harder to understand. Very few moves he’s made on and off the field since the very first—the day he had McKeon, Perez, Dawson and Conine fired weeks before taking over the team—are moves that would be made if you were 1) trying to cultivate a fan base or 2) trying to win.
I actually have a 7-page single-spaced document of things—both large and small—I’d do to show fans they matter if I were running this team. He and his leadership team just don’t get it.
I wrote about Jorge Mas a couple of months ago. Manfred wanted Jeter involved. Whoever made a deal with Jeter was going to get the team. Jeter wanted full autonomy. Sherman agreed to give it to him. Mas wisely said no. But it cost him the team. He's doing great things with Inter Miami.
I'm glad that he's doing great things with inter miami, but what absolute BS on manfred's part. That kind of focus on optics rather than substance is exactly why this team is where it is now.
I’m not sure it was merely optics. A respected icon in the sport successfully running a team would have been a great thing for Baseball. Unfortunately for the Marlins, he wasn’t successful.
People like that who bring certain gifts but are short on experience should use their gifts but hire smartly so they’re surrounded by people who know more than them about various areas. Those experts should be the people running those areas. Jeter didn’t do that. He thought he was qualified to make every decision, to negotiate every deals, to have final say on business, personnel and baseball matters. There’s no denying it set the franchise back several years.
I always come back to the honeymoon this group should have enjoyed because of the sentiment that surrounded the previous leadership when they took over. Remember all the people who said they’d buy tickets as soon as Loria sold the team? What happened to them? They were turned off by countless decisions this group made in its opening months of ownership (firing McKeom, Dawson, Perez, Conine and Rich Waltz and trading Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna and Gordon in that first offseason). They blew that honeymoon.
The reality is—and I lived this daily no matter how much people don’t want to believe it—the previous leadership (while not successful in different ways for different reasons) was far more competent.
Would have been the 3rd Wild Card in 2009. Would have lost a tie breaker for the final spot to the Mets in 2005. No dice in 2004.
As for 2023, they wouldn’t have made it in the era of one Wild Card team. They’d have played a one-game playoff against Arizona for the 2nd Wild Card in the 2-Wild Card era.
Remember the final weekend of the regular season when I advocated for the #3 Wild Card team having a more favorable draw than the #2 Wild Card? That’s what the D-Backs just rode to the pennant after they fell behind Miami, into the 3rd spot on the final weekend.
I am torn. It's natural to adopt a team in these instances using whatever contorted rationale is devised. Arizona is the underdog, modest payroll, with an emerging roster. Texas has the sentimental factors, having never won a title along with respected Bochy in the dugout. Rangers in 6. MLB holding it's collective breath that the matchup entices fans to tune in.
Glenn,
It's hard to have hope for this team when ownership seems so incompetent and cheap.
I mean, this is like the opposite of the Heat and the culture of winning they have there.
It breaks my heart because this team means so much to me. And yet, Sherman doesn't seem to want to spend the money to build a sustainable winning franchise and doesn't value his people. How can a team possibly build a sustainable winning franchise with that kind of attitude and that kind of rank mismanagement?
What a f****** shame.
Okay thanks. I'll hang up and listen. Haha
He’s had 6 years to prove you wrong, and he hasn’t done it yet. With each move he makes, it gets harder to understand. Very few moves he’s made on and off the field since the very first—the day he had McKeon, Perez, Dawson and Conine fired weeks before taking over the team—are moves that would be made if you were 1) trying to cultivate a fan base or 2) trying to win.
I actually have a 7-page single-spaced document of things—both large and small—I’d do to show fans they matter if I were running this team. He and his leadership team just don’t get it.
I really wish Jorge mas Canosa would have gotten the team. What a waste. Man oh man, what a waste.
I wrote about Jorge Mas a couple of months ago. Manfred wanted Jeter involved. Whoever made a deal with Jeter was going to get the team. Jeter wanted full autonomy. Sherman agreed to give it to him. Mas wisely said no. But it cost him the team. He's doing great things with Inter Miami.
I'm glad that he's doing great things with inter miami, but what absolute BS on manfred's part. That kind of focus on optics rather than substance is exactly why this team is where it is now.
I’m not sure it was merely optics. A respected icon in the sport successfully running a team would have been a great thing for Baseball. Unfortunately for the Marlins, he wasn’t successful.
People like that who bring certain gifts but are short on experience should use their gifts but hire smartly so they’re surrounded by people who know more than them about various areas. Those experts should be the people running those areas. Jeter didn’t do that. He thought he was qualified to make every decision, to negotiate every deals, to have final say on business, personnel and baseball matters. There’s no denying it set the franchise back several years.
I always come back to the honeymoon this group should have enjoyed because of the sentiment that surrounded the previous leadership when they took over. Remember all the people who said they’d buy tickets as soon as Loria sold the team? What happened to them? They were turned off by countless decisions this group made in its opening months of ownership (firing McKeom, Dawson, Perez, Conine and Rich Waltz and trading Stanton, Yelich, Ozuna and Gordon in that first offseason). They blew that honeymoon.
The reality is—and I lived this daily no matter how much people don’t want to believe it—the previous leadership (while not successful in different ways for different reasons) was far more competent.
This question has nothing to due with the World Series. I was wondering if the Marlins would have
been in the playoffs in 2004 or 2004 or 2009 under the current expanded playoff rules?
2004,2005,2009. And would the 2023 Fish made the playoffs under the former rules?
Would have been the 3rd Wild Card in 2009. Would have lost a tie breaker for the final spot to the Mets in 2005. No dice in 2004.
As for 2023, they wouldn’t have made it in the era of one Wild Card team. They’d have played a one-game playoff against Arizona for the 2nd Wild Card in the 2-Wild Card era.
Remember the final weekend of the regular season when I advocated for the #3 Wild Card team having a more favorable draw than the #2 Wild Card? That’s what the D-Backs just rode to the pennant after they fell behind Miami, into the 3rd spot on the final weekend.
Thanks Glenn. I have often questioned what would have occurred had Lee and Pudge been
on the team in 04 and 05? Would the Fish made the playoffs in those years? And the 09 team was close plus very entertaining.
I am torn. It's natural to adopt a team in these instances using whatever contorted rationale is devised. Arizona is the underdog, modest payroll, with an emerging roster. Texas has the sentimental factors, having never won a title along with respected Bochy in the dugout. Rangers in 6. MLB holding it's collective breath that the matchup entices fans to tune in.